ok i got it Rich thanks, i had read that the Guthrie Govan Charvel had the same issue with the same non locking/bone nut system. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information. Suhr ClassicIbanez AZNFender MB 60s, 29327 178 876 392 206 106, , "" I am a lazy bastard and will not spend my days oiling the fretboard. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk. For 1600 you get a 4a top, chambered body, and roasted maple neck. I didn't care for the AZ I tried. , 10208 125 157 37 60 64, , bilibiliUPFender StratTeleIbanez AZ The noiseless pickups reduce a lot of the hum, which is fantastic and a great feature. Solidbody Electric Guitar with African Mahogany Body, Flamed Maple Top, Roasted Maple Neck and Fingerboard, and 2 Humbucking Pickups - Transparent Aqua Blue. I have yet to buy one with perfect fretwork, which is an area where companies like Suhr and Anderson excel. The craftsmanship on those instruments are amazing, the quality control is superb, and the versatility in the pups is like magic. But for me, I wouldnt be willing to pay triple the price over that sort of thing. I have a Suhr Custom Modern in H-S-H. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Yeah, the EB Cutlass is a good deal, but I was thinking more of something like the Sabre. I really wanted to get one of the AZ series - I played both the AZ-242F and AZ-2204F and really liked both except for the neck, which is IMO way too thick (most of my guitars are Wizard necks. Ive been lucky to spend lots of quality time with it but I cant justify an extra $1k+ either. I loved the SSS, anyway. Informci hangszerek, gitrok, ads-vtel. I had an RG3120 many years ago, it was a fine guitar. Dont worry about resale. Thank you, I am a bit of a spec guy so it makes senses to compare them, although the ultimate test will be whether I get the mojo or not with them. And given that the guitar is a fraction of the final tone you achieve, well, you do make a great point. EDIT 2: well it kinda looks like a strat and a jaguar had a child so if you like how that looks it's only about 200 pounds more expensive. That's probably the most commonly used bridge pickup for Suhr. I had an RG3120 many years ago, it was a fine guitar. fretboard radius. The bridge pickup screams - much more than I like as mainly a fusion player. ), Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Fender Ultra Stratocaster vs Ibanez AZ - opinion. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Finally, eh? The heel joint on the Ibanez looks very nice. The satin line is built in the same regard that John Suhr uses with the customs and you can expect the same build quality out of the satin line. Fretwork isn't always great on a Prestige either but generally better than Premium, yes. Play them both in a shop. AZAZ!. You can get decent dives and float and remain n really good relative tune, but you have to cut the back side of the nut in the direction the strings flex out in dives to stop binding. I honestly don't think my issue is a fret issue as much as a possible neck pocket issue. The AZ is specd with the same two singlecoils in neck and middle, and the output diference from neck to middle is pretty modest, compared to middle to bridge (where you do tend to want something hotter). Im not 100% on the Suhr, I know theyre Suhr branded pickups and the bridge pickup is the super hot one rated at something like 17k. Yea, the strings all flex out to the treble side on dives so you have to roll off straight but it's more important to roll the back side to the treble side or that's where it will bind. It still felt great, but I left the shop convinced it had a dual radius. the forum rules you agreed to follow when you signed up. If you've had your heart set on the Ibanez, then go for that. It gets long. Fender Epiphone Les Paul Gibson Ibanez Dob Zongora Heged JavaScript is disabled. The tones in all 5 positions are useful. Carrying this ethos forward, the AZ line embodies time-tested Ibanez innovation and player-focused features like a smooth, oval neck grip, a well-balanced asymmetrical body shape, and the neck heel allowing for unrivaled playability. The middle and bridge SS on the SSS model are different to the HSS pickups, so its not even the same sound. I own a Prestige model and consider it one of the finest guitars I own, you can see how much effort goes into building them @ Fujigen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ShEIwznLGI, This AZ model also has titanium saddles which are fantastic for durability and tuning stability: http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/T1802. Great, youre good to go. If you're using a bar lime Timmons would, then you'll find it will perform to that level well. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Seeing the new Ibanez headless models got me thinking about how in the past couple of years Ibanez and Charvel have managed to grab quite a few "2nd wave shredders" (basically the fusion-inspired shred players that came on the scene in the mid-late 00s and gained prominence in the 10s) who previously either endorsed or frequently played Suhr by coming out with the AZ and DK lines respectively. If you dont mind lighting hundred-euro bills on fire, Fenders QC has been pretty good for a while now, but Ive never played a Suhr that wasnt at least pretty sweet, and the best ones have been some of the best guitars Ive ever played - I swear my Modern 6 is alive. I'm not at all surprised to hear the MIJ Prestige compares favorably to the Suhr. AZS2209H. Interesting comparison, for a couple reasons. Mouser in recent years has tapped into the guitar market by offering musical specific items from distributors. The Ibanez AZ is basically their take on a Suhr Modern, and isn't really their traditional RG style superstrat. I had a Charvel DK24 on my hit list, too, as a high-quality more affordable 24-fret guitar. The Suhr, by comparison, sounds incredible in most positions, but theres two things I dont like which may be connected. Fretwork isn't always great on a Prestige either but generally better than Premium, yes. You are using an out of date browser. Electric Guitar Body: Alder, Bolt-on neck: Maple, Fretboard: Maple, White pearloid dot fretboard inlays, Neck profile: Modern D, Compound Fretboard Radius: 254 - 355.6 mm (10"- 14"), Scale: 648 mm (25.51"), Nut width: 42,8 mm (1.69"), Bone nut, Electric Guitar Body: Alder, S-Tech Wood neck: Maple, Neck profile: Oval C, S-Tech Wood Fretboard: Maple, Nut width: 42 mm, Scale: 648 mm, Jumbo Stainless Steel frets with Prestige fret edge treatment, Pickups: 1 Seymour Duncan Hyperion humbucker Colours are irrelevant but I am looking for an HSS version and maple fretboard. At the first frets, the neck seems very thin. I will keep thinking about it but I am so torn as the guitars are so different. As I have a Player Strat which is already very good, I dont see the need to upgrade to another Fender right away. But a strat with a non-locking two-point or six-screw trem? Which, I like strats. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ShEIwznLGI. Sounds like a dirty pot. medium jumbo nickel-steel vs stainless jumbo frets. And, find out if it compares it to it's new-on-the-scene competition, the Ibanez AZ Prestige. Today its basically like buying a toaster. To each his own I suppose. I've yet to find a tangible answer as to why the suhr is better. The b-roll is still 1080p on this one, but will be 4k next week :)Have a guitar you want me to review? AJ Thanks for sharing. Balancing a neck and middle singlecoil with comparable, much less identical, output should be pretty easy. On paper, elliptical is too thin for me if it was a c shape. Though the price range of the AZ series isn't low (around $1300 US for the Premium Indonesian models and $2000+ for the Prestige Japanese models), they are generally a more affordable option . I also love that it is one of one with a unique paint job. And in my opinion, honestly a win all around. EBMM gets close, but no model seems to have a roasted neck and 24 stainless frets together. 2023: The Year Epiphone Became Unaffordable, Don't store picks in zip bags for too long. I might buy one again if used prices go down again. So thats a serious consideration. The Ibanez AZ is basically their take on a Suhr Modern, and isnt really their traditional RG style superstrat. Second and most importantly, the Suhr isnt your guitar. I believe after looking into it that its an SSH+. do you feel bad for fender because suhr exists? One thing to remember is that because necks are 'hand-finished' they can vary from guitar to guitar. IMHO i'd choose this but the ibanez is a really nice guitar. JavaScript is disabled. I own two Strats. Ibanez - way more compressed (higher output). Nope. Special Financing - Ends Jan 1, 2024. Totally different concept and tonal options that do not overlap as much as I expected with Fender. - Neck type AZ Oval C S-TECH WOOD roasted maple 1pc eck- Body Alder body- Fretboard S-TECH WOOD roasted maple fretboard w . Ibanez AZSuhrTom Anderson 24 I am not an expert but I would say it was down to the pickups. Suhr is not as big as FMC because they did not invent the Stratocaster, so I could care less that they are not as big and can't do as much. Be prepared your wallet is in danger. I feel the J.Custom's rounded fret edges and softer neck back (velvetouch, lol) as well as Edge Pro (vs Floyd), on top of the wood binded neck and absolutely 0 neck pocket set it above the Suhr. Probably that or something comparable. Suhr all day long. Tech experts from Seymour Duncan are regularly on this forum, and are clearly labeled as employees of Seymour Duncan. -Ibanez AZ necks are .80-.88. It will have a thicker-than-typical neck for an Ibanez, but probably still thinner than average and I wouldnt be surprised if its a hair thinner than that Fender. is Suhr really that much better? Tuners are only an issue if the stock ones are really bad, and if they have to be replaced youre talking another $100 for Sperzel or equivalent. The more I play it, the more I like it so I am used to a real Strat and love it to bits. d: Thickness of the neck at the twelfth fret. Need some context: What pups are in the Suhr and Ibby? The Ultra sounds like a strat: dynamic, transparent, sparky? Ibanez offers electric guitars, bass guitars, acoustic guitars, effect and pedals, amps, plus guitar accessories like . As for floyd guitars, a lot of it is indeed with the materials (metal alloy) and mass of the bridge itself. [DISCUSSION] Ibanez AZ prestige or Suhr modern satin. The black AZ looks like Pete Thorn's Suhr! Didn't vibe with the stock pups in the Ibby's, my Suhr is amazing. Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. You must log in or register to reply here. There are three principles behind the Ibanez Prestige line: Precision, Performance, and Playability. I mean the pickups, the neck and that bridge are all top notch. Let's take a look and see if this high-end custom shop guitar. I wasn't a big fan of it in my Modern Satin. By continuing to use our site you consent to use our cookies. IMO you should go with the Prestige AZ but that's me. In some way, these are all Fender-style guitars. I love mine, and it's inexpensive enough that if you didn't love the pups you could drop 3-400 on replacements and still have less than 1500 in it. Martin Miller Signature MM1 - Transparent Aqua Blue. We measure a DC resistance of 6.6 ohms, which isn't far from vintage territory. They've already built their rep as one of the top boutique manufacturers and won't need to try hard to get a new wave of artist sponsorships. I can live with either. To me, it played like a dream! 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Im used to a 9.5 across the whole fretboard and love it. The tones you can get are nothing like one another. Copyright 2023 Ibanez guitars. The Ibanez has more tonal options thanks to a toggle to split humbucker and add certain combinations. I hope you find the guitar thats right for you, regardless. While the spec, for example, on the Super Wizard HP - "the neck for shredders," states Ibanez - offers a 17mm depth at the first fret, 19mm by the 12th with a nut with of 43mm and a 'board radius of 430mm (16.9"), the AZ's neck is much more conventional measuring between 41.84mm to 42.38mm at the nut, 20.5 to 21mm at the 1st fret and . At the first frets, the neck seems very thin. The part below is going to sound like a rant, but its less directed at you, and more an expression of my gripe with how guitars are marketed. Online boltok, akcik egy helyen az rukeres rsszehasonlt oldalon. Ibanez AZ +2Suhr On the other hand, ibanez az has a similar thickness, but because of the cross-section it seems to be much thicker and fuller, which suits me very well. And secondly there was no stock of HSS ultras, so I tried a SSS ultra and a HSS american pro (which is different, anyway). I used a Fender Mustang reissue on that, dumbass! My only complaint about it was that the neck was too thin for my taste, but it's a matter of preference - some people prefer thinner necks. 11R . I'm in the market for a new six string electric guitar, for use in standard tuning. Radius : 430mmR. Id be curious of your opinions two months from now. Check out the pedal here: https://amzn.to/2w2lUd0Want a Guitar Pit t-shirt? This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people living on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. It partly comes down to what a person values in a guitar. Yep, Im a touring (well, you know, until last year) musician and music teacher by profession and can never quite afford the gear I want. I've been posting my shootout videos around Ibanez AZ series, but so far only 24 frets. Rimo BlogIbanez! A forum community dedicated to Ibanez JEM guitar owners and enthusiasts. I sent back the Suhr and got a J. I love the inlays, some others don't. JavaScript is disabled. Guitar Neck Diagram. There'll always be one you could have spent more money to get, but it sounds like the Ibanez is the one you've been thinking of most, so go with that I think. I will consider an Ultra or other American model in the future (maybe). Shanks! Design: the Ultra looks like a Strat! I used to have a Japanese S a long while ago and the wizard necks are fast and easy to play. Endorsements are a business, period. I cant make out whether youre being sarcastic here. The Custom 24 is its own thing, its more unique and the Suhr is more like an expensive Ibanez so it depends on what you want/need. Nice write up. Was the ibanez more compressed acoustically, when you strummed the two unplugged, or was it as resonant unplugged but the pickups were making it more compressed? As an Ibanez Prestige owner and a Suhr Modern owner I love both but lean Suhr, b/c the neck shape of the Suhr is a little more filled out and is perfect for my average size for 6' guy hand. $ 1,999 .99. I could just grab the Ibanez and mod my MIM strat (notwithstanding access to higher frets and radius), or save to then buy the Ultra in the future (and have both haha! With the release of the stripped-back AZ Ibanez Essentials range, has Ibanez created the ultimate beginner's guitar? So I am not sure I would change them in the short run. Were the two singlecoils the same height, or was the middle buried a bit? May 9, 2014. It doesnt even really need to be finished to remain stable - the roasting process dries out the wood pretty thoroughly, making it extremely stable, though I suspect the Ibanez has a matte finish on the neck anyway. But Im not going to shit on somebody for choosing a guitar that makes them happy. Open to your thoughts, experiences & research on Suhr and Anderson guitars. The craftsmanship is also incredibly high all round. I think they also make Telecaster variants, I meannot very original if you ask me. Thanks for your feedback, i already have 3 prestige model and the fretwork is great, i assume it won't be an issue on the AZ prestige range ! Dirtier and higher gain tones felt more compressed. So they're not going to hold artists like the mainstream production companies that pay out for artists, which is exactly what Suhr wants. On the less expensive side check our the Charvel DK24 Pro Mods. I tried to cover "Home" guitar rendition by Vinai T. I think the Ibanez has a few quality-of-life features for comfort that Fender will never consider as these may affect the final Strat design (certain contours). Ibanez AZ2402 ICM AZ2402 | AZ | ELECTRIC GUITARS | PRODUCTS | Ibanez guitars. 19mm at 12F. For me, medium-jumbo is about as small as I can comfortably play. If theres any way you can play one, youll probably come close to doubling the cost, but if nothing else itll help you put the AZ into context. FWIW my second most played guitar (after a Suhr modern) is my Ibanez JS, not my other Suhr. All the pickups in the nicer Ibanez guitars are made by DiMarzio. I tried different suhr guitars2 modern HSH models and 1 standard HSS Rich: the work you did on mine has it staying pretty solidly in tune over the course of a live set even with some warbly and dive+slide madness. Bridge on the Ibanez is nicer, unless you specifically have a personal preference for two-point Fender bridges. The Prestige stuff is top notch. Let's hear the 22 fret against the . Vsrls: Catalinbread Effekt pedl rak, elad Catalinbread Effekt pedlok. Great: https://amzn.to/2NEfU0RI always tweet deals on guitars when I see them. settled on Ibanez AZ2402 but now many people are saying if I'm willing to pay that much I might as well go for the Suhr modern satin which is like 400 pounds more. You can read more about our Privacy Policy. Wondering if anyone has any experience with them. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The philosophy behind this series is to bring the tone, versatility and, playability of this celebrated lineup to a wider array of beginner and intermediate players. Guitar Neck Diagram. Come join the discussion about collections, displays, models, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I think heel joint concerns sometimes get blown out of proportion, but if its something that matters to you, youll probably like the Ibanez better. link above. Something to note too is that remember, endorsements are primarily about cash for the, I'm quite sure Mr. Suhr doent give a fluff, Granted, it is always kind of a bummer to see someone's "thing" get copied and mass produced, but it's kind of inevitable. You shouldnt oil roasted maple, and it doesnt move with the seasons, which is another benefit to us lazy bastards that dont want to mess with the truss rod. But that does not mean there is no difference. Guitars: 2016 Ibanez RG6003FM (JB/'59nJ) 2018 G&L Tribute Legacy (Hot Rails/stock/stock) 2019 Squier Affinity Telecaster HH (Esquire'd w/ JB) Applause/Ovation AE28 Acoustic/Electric. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
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