2. This group is to help Pastors locate KJV IFB Churches. I thought that this was the passage you were referring to. The New Testament teaches the absolute autonomy of each local church who is to govern itself as the Word of God instructs free from outside authority and control. In 1645, he formed a Baptist church in London. I have never believed in obedience to a pastor just obedience to Gods Word So wonderful to hear you are making progress in your spiritual journey. ), and maybe even stand up and shout if the Lord really touches their heart, Sorry that you had a bad experience, but not all IFB churches are alike, and mine is great! I just wanted you to know that I have made the decision to leave the IFB. My point is that Tithing is good since Jesus says they should not have left it undone. Praise the Lord she started going back to church recently. In the many books on church history which make up the bibliography for this paper, there is not one recorded incident of a Baptist church beginning founded out of Roman Catholicism. Anyway at least once a year we set up a tent and have an old-fashioned revival. The issue that concerns me about dress standards is that the position a church takes is a Biblical one. I think I already addressed that point. I dont see a thing wrong with it; He didnt make us to be wooden. If you think women ought to wear pants, thats your prerogative. We do good works (they are only truly good b/c of the bllod of Jesus that justifys us & are perfect through His shed blood). I know that as I give more to the Lord Im blessed more & even if not I want to. Thats all. And that homeless man that shows up every few weeks may have truly accepted Christ in the past, but events of life led to his downward spiral. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ This site is run by a Jack Hyles follower. this is a great book research on cultist church If you want to be under law, you need to keep all 613 commandments of the Mosaic law. Thank you for the article, for your love for the King of all Kings. Many churches by this time had come under the domination of the Rome government and had ceased from being New Testament churches. They submit a request to become affiliated and then are supplied with a form to fill out. Everyone wanted attention from the pastor and never left the man alone to truly study Gods Word. 2. KJV Independent, Fundamental Baptist Churches in the USA . Not all IFB churches are this way. However, history does not record even one Anabaptist group or church becoming or founding a Baptist church. 77. 71 N., De Queen, Arkansas 71832, United States of America DeQueen Flag Listing Claim This Listing Arbanna Baptist Church She eventually left because my uncle (divorced numerous times himself), rode her case about it. It cannot be stated too often that the importance of these churches was not in their name, but in what they believed and practiced. Particular Baptist had their beginnings around 1616, when some dissenters left the Church of England and were lead by the Rev. Although they were a great deal more pious than the Church of England they still practiced most of its beliefs including infant baptism. There have always existed, from the time of Christ, New Testament churches which were not a part of the Roman Church. No, we are to teach and preach the Word. We are not under law, but under grace. Lynne, Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalm 137:9. Here ar ethe key words: ought to have done without leaving the others undone, which would mean that tithing is good. The not so fine folks at Westboro Baptist are a bunch of lunatic fringe haters that act in contrast to the love of Christ they espouse to embrace. But anyway he says that if those folks go to Hell, that their blood would be on your hands. Thanks and may God bless. The acapella voices were very beautiful, and I knew she would have enjoyed hearing them. She is not shunned. He is not nearly as fundy as where I left from, and is learning. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. Unfortunately, serious Bible study is in short supply these days. In 1663, Charles II, gave the colony a royal charter and it read: Our royal will and pleasure is, that no person within the said colony, at any time hereafter, shall be in any wise molested, punished disquieted, or called in question, for any differences of opinion in matters of religion, and do not actually disturb the civil peace of the said colony. Lynne, By 400 AD, the Emperor Theodosius had declared Christianity the only state religion of the Roman Empire. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23) Priesthood of the Believer. Comprized of many nationalities and backgrounds, the secret of successat CR, is that this is a Bible Chuch revolving around King Jesus. To say there is a unbroken line or succession of Baptist churches from the time of Christ until today cannot be shown from history. Some Baptists such as the Landmark Baptist and those often referred to as We believe in salvation by grace through faith as described in Ephesians 2:8-9. You should tithe, but if you dont thats between you and the Lord. I personally do not think tithing is wrong, When Jesus refers to tithing didnt He uphold it & only objected to other sins but did not speak aganist it. 601 1ST AVE SE . Our lives reflect the light of Christ. Also, when only what we do for Christ will last would include contributing to kingdom endeavors. Shortly after the Church of England fell from grace when the English monarch was overthrown and the Presbyterians became the favored church of the state. Member churches are forbidden to affiliate with any denomination, and the fellowship, administered by annually elected trustees, cannot . Knolleys joined other dissenters left England. Independent Baptist Churches is a subsite of IndependentBaptist.com. Thank you. In 1678, shortly after the church had erected a new building, the Puritan controlled government nailed its doors shut and forbade anyone under penalty of the law to enter or worship there. Using the KJV only is not the problem. I commented that some of the teen girls were dressed entirely innappropriately with tiny shorts, which were very immodest, so there certainly should be a standard for modesty. It holds high the saving Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, as revealed in the New Testament and an unwavering commitment to carrying out the Great Commission, that is, to teach everywhere the truth of Gods Word. Smokers use breath mints. It is the clergymen who are affiliated. In 1638, Williams made his way to what is now Providence, Rhode Island, and there bought some land from the Indians. We hope it will be a blessing to you. He returned to Salem where he was summoned before the court in Boston because of his outspoken beliefs and was banished from the colony. In 1638, he landed in Boston and settled for a short time in Piscataway (now Dover) in New Hampshire. We are friendly Fundamental Independent Baptists, k ind-of like the church your grandparents might have once attended. Alsoas in regargds to whom Jesus spoke to (they were Phairsees)I dont think that matters, the Phairsee just happened to be the ones constantlty questioning & troubling Himas well as were the Religious Leaders of that day whom example was probally looked at by others to follow (note Jesus: Do the things that they teach, Jesus said, But do not do the things that they do). Greg, It was founded because some saved men believed the Bible and wanted to follow the New Testament example of what a true church should be. PEOPLE are the problem! G.L. Note..I, no particular denomination. Baptism is an outward sign of an inward decision and has nothing to do with your salvation. Drinkers go to the next town to buy their drinks. http://www.bible-truth.org/fundbapt.htm. But wouldnt Paul himself, or the original church to whom the letter was sent, count as outside authority and control? Im sorry Brother Irv, but you are wrong. In what areas? I wish you well in your new school and church. The only power above the pastor is God, and Gods silence seems to imply endorsement and collaboration. This is just too weird for me to not comment on. When people ask me what church I am a member of, I always tell them the Heavenly Church, wherever and whoever that is. One of the most unsettling things to experience is dealing with corruption in power. Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they SOme Calvarly CHapels Im sure are good felloships. My question would be: When has anyone ever given 10% to GOD. It more often then none goes to the support building, supplies, salaries of a ministry under the leadership of usually a man., Excellent book on the subject is Should the Church Teach Tithing by Russell Kelly, http://www.truthforfree.com/files/PDF/REK-Tithing3.pdf. Greek Orthodox Churches; Unity Churches; Lutheran Churches; Eastern Orthodox Churches; You want to point out that you think that I have anger issues, but have a look at your comments, I dont see awhole lot of love dripping off of your comments either. Select church size. Im all about modest clothing, but I cant tell you how many sermons I have sat through where the man of God railed against women wearing slacks. Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. Where the pastors power is total? The Association of Fundamental Baptist Churches in the Philippines AFBCP is an organization guiding cooperative ministries of Independent Baptist Tithing is not for God. I still attend a tiny (20-30 on Sunday) Baptist Church, and yes it is IFB. God does not lead His children by rules. I cannot know. LEARN MORE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF THE MODERNIST CHURCH Our goal here has always been to provide encouragement and resources for independent Baptists. He was much displeased with the Puritan theocracy. I have done my share of research on what defines a cult and unless Im missing something, we dont qualify as a such. It is not the name or the organization that makes a Biblical church, but its practice of the faith as revealed in the New Testament. One young lady began attending a non IFB Baptist church. The message is set. When it's Time To Leave Thoughts on Breaking Away, 73. Not because of how we dress but by who we are. There he became the pastor of the Puritan church. Again adhering to correct doctrine and proper practices should be the focus in our lives. If your church does teach the following then watch out, you are probably in a manipulating extreme IFB church situation. We dress however we want, however, my Pastor chides me in good nature, because I frequently wear black clothing, but he is not being critical. There were other factors, such as the show business aspects of the preaching as well as the powertripping that actually planted my difficulties to begin with. Pedophiles hide in dark corners. He then begins crying, Im not an expert at body language, but it certainly seemed contrived, preachertainment some would call it. Thanks for any love shown but what you just did Kaatie was take a few lines I wrote and placed them within your own ideaand that is know as taking something out of context . If lots of the Church congregation was wearing Scooby doo and sponge bob square pants costumes or swimsuits regularly to Church I would guess that some people would probably leave and look for another Church. Jesus didnt find it necessary to dress differently than anyone else, why should the MOG? He then baptized himself (which is not biblical) and then the others of his congregation. Throughout all your conjecture you based none of you opinions on scripture. Nope, dont see that. Independent Baptist Churches believe the following "Independent Baptist Distinctives": 1. For example, G.L. Im looking forward to laughing at more of your comments. In Virginia, Baptist were not welcome. Well last night the first speaker, spoke on Hell, he said not many preach on Hell anymore (yea, right!) Some Baptist historians, have made attempts at doing this, but in many cases refer to groups as early Baptists who did not in fact hold to pure Baptist beliefs as held today. This lasted only one Sunday however, and the following Sunday the doors were opened and services held in defiance of the order. He also had a big thing against girls being in beauty pageants, not sure what the problem was there. I find it difficult sometimes to keep Gods sovereignty and my responsibility in balance. 3:1-16) However, some Independent Baptist churches do not accept that the word officer is the proper biblical term to be used and particularly does not apply to deacons. Even the Roman Catholic Church which boasts of his unbroken history cannot prove an unbroken line of churches earlier than the Third Century, and what Catholicism teaches today in no way resembles what the New Testament teaches or what the early churches believed and practiced. I immediatley thought that my God must be alot bigger than his. Biblically neither Deacons or Trustees are a governing body, or a board, but titles of special appointed servants who serve at the will of the pastor and congregation. I cannot judge this man. 2 Corinthians 9:6 Prosperity Giving Deception, 76. Im not sure what the Word of God sais about dress. Through preaching the New Testament, the Gospel went forth in power and the Baptist movement grew rapidly. They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Again, its not about how we dress, but about who we are. Some years ago when I was attempting to find another church for my family to attend so as to escape a spiritually abusive IFB, I found myself at a Church of Christ that had split from the large COC in town. Hope that last wasnt too much personal info. You will find, to the left, a tags cloud as well as a category drop down menu. Someone, somewhere has hurt you. They, however, will only fellowship or cooperate in joint meetings with churches of like belief. Oopsin 1st paragraphh in one sentence I actually meant something more like this: the Law is fullfillednow we can truly do good works that are pleasing to the Lord for the sins are washed away with & following the Law to make us right, which it never could but only point to our need for redemption, is fullfilled. 5.) The Puritans did not believe in such things and they drove him from their colony. Read all (mor ethan on epost under name Lynne). Thank you for visiting Fundamental.org Home to the KJV Church directory! In fact Jesus emphatically stated in Matt. The new testament says Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. that pretty much destroys the idea of someone being forced to give. I do not agree with the IFB on their viewpoint of strict dress standards. They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Im surprised but shouldnt be by now that folks know so very little about their respective churches/traditions, most just sit in the pew and simply repeat what their pastor has told them, never checking and studying for themselves, what thus saith the Lord You act so surprised that I questioned you about which Church of Christ you were referring to, do yourself alittle favor and have a look at wikipedias lists of Churches of Christ First and foremost I wanted to make sure you werent referring to the The Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints which is a flat-out cult. 3. Most of the Anabaptists successors became the Mennonites, Amish and Quakers. There's only one way to heaven, and that . Some more deception I would like to expose are these IFB web sites. If other will share. They have a 1st Amendment right to speak their mind, but that doesnt mean shouting down a preacher at a military funeral. All Independent Baptist Church The Road to Emmaus Baptist Church - Monaca, PA No Reviews Favorite Claimed? By 1644, these congregations grew to seven churches. NoI simply believe we are not required to tithe (like keeping law) but it is a good thing to if one wants to. Tithing preceded the OT Law. It was founded by Roger Williams, according to the teachings and example of the New Testament. We have the personal presence of the Holy Spirit to lead and guide us, why would we want to follow rules that were intended for people living in the power of the flesh? The Official Independent Baptist Rulebook, Known in Some Churches as Church Standards Thou shalt obey the pastor at all times Thou shalt obey all adults at all times if you are a child or teenager Thou shalt obey your husband at all times if you are a woman Thou shalt obey your parents at all times If people would only study the Word of God for themselves and stop being pew sitters and believe everything the pastor says of gospel truth theyd be able to spot a false doctrine/teacher a mile away. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). (See also Gal. Please do not take this the wrong waybut coming from someone who I think is more objective (i was not raised in a IFB, just joined, been a part of non-denm & other denm fellowships), well here goes in love: it almost seems like you have an axe to grind with IFB Church. I have heard people argue that a certain type of dress is more attractive to the world, or woman wearing dresses sets them apart as being different. Im referring to a mistake I made in my fairly long comment, which you may not have seen yet, once you do youll understand I was correcting a statement in my next to last paragraph. Williams graduated from Cambridge University in 1627, and was apparently ordained in the Church of England. The Person of Jesus Christ: Jesus is 100% God and 100% man for all eternity. I am Presbyterian and we had a discussion on Christian doctrine. About modesty, my wife and I attended a concert that my sons band performed at a teen group in a neighboring town. I would either be kicked out or asked to put on something to wear. From a Calvary Chapel web site: We do not maintain church membership; You must be born again spiritually to join the church of Jesus Christ, therefore membership is in the whole church of Jesus, not just our local fellowship., This practice stems from their Moses model (top down) style of church leadership. The Baptist bases his authority solely on the Bible itself. Independent Church. We have the freedom to give as much as we like, without any compulsion. Many Protestant denominations still hold to the writings of their church fathers as a source of church doctrine and have never accepted the Bible as their sole source of teachings for their faith and practice, which is a foundational teaching of Catholicism.
